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moia
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Posted by moia

on Jul 26, 2008

The new (and the old) iPhones don't work with tutmanik.
Considering that 'tutmanik' is a showcase and a testbed for a technology used in other places, then it might be of some interest that the iPhone doesn't work.

The main problem (as far as my testing went) is that the default edit applet for the text messages is absolutely useless, since the iPhone doesn't recognize *it* (the applet) as a text editing entity and consequently doesn't show the virtual keyboard.  Now, this is an iPhone problem (of sorts) and not tutmanik, but in my opinion the edit applet here is suboptimal and should be replaced by a regular text edit box with support for 'markdown' (I'm sure the developers know what this term is, or can find out).  While the current applet offers some nice features, such as "insert picture", "make a URL link", change font size, color, etc. ... it lacks in ease of use and it has too many bugs (there are still cases where a message _can not_ be edited after it has been posted since the applet has gone bonkers).  The current applet also doesn't support basic 'spell checking' for example, which is more important than the "insert picture" option.  If a widget (applet) must support the "text edit" usage model then editing text must be the primary and only focus ... in my opinion!

When I travel, I could send pictures and make posts on the iPhone if tutmanik allows me to do so. ;-)

BTW,
the iPhone is absolutely astonishing piece of equipment.

Regards.

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5. The Wizard posted on Jul 27, 2008
 in response to moia...   

The problem with 'starting' editing exists. It doesn't matter where you will enter a single character first, it will start working correctly. However if you would like to start with some other action - for instance deleting something it will not start working correctly.

This appears to be some generic bug in the open source code of the rich edit control and it will be addressed soon.

Cheers

 

moia
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4. moia posted on Jul 26, 2008... modified on Jul 26, 2008
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yes, I was just able to edit the text ... but, nothing could be deleted until I added some gibberish (text) near the bottom, only after that I was able to delete the characters from the original text.
here is the post in question:
http://pozdrav-ot-lulin-zapadna-sofia.nikky.tutmanik.com/?cid=20619#AddComment

The text is unchanged so you could catch whatever sequence of characters is causing this problem.  I tried editing the text a few times and was able to repeat the behavior.

regards.

p.s.
Why does the order of messages, on the front page, change when someone edits an old message.  I guess 90% of the time people edit old messages to correct errors (spelling or format, etc.) without adding any new content.  Anyway, it seems a bit unnatural to have a message pop at the top of the front page (as if it was brand new) simply because someone added a 'comma'. :-)
(Perhaps there is an option to disable this behavior and I just don't know where it is.)

 

p.p.s

I just had exactly the same problem with this message ... I couldn't delete until adding something.  Try it.

Emil
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3. Emil posted on Jul 26, 2008
 in response to moia...   

This is really strange... how about later... like now... can you edit this post?

moia
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2. moia posted on Jul 26, 2008... modified on Jul 26, 2008
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On the iPhone I was using Safari.

On my main computer I use Firefox 90% of the time.  The problem from just a day ago -- I wanted to redact (edit) a message that I just posted to the site. The redaction was to delete one letter and replace another ... i was simply not able to delete or add any new text to the original message.  I was not in a hurry and in fact tried the operation a few times .. even restarted Firefox. :-)

Regards.

Emil
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1. Emil posted on Jul 26, 2008

Thank you for the post...

We know that the rich edit control has some problems... but we don't consider them critical enough yet to do something about replacing it with something better.

BTW, you are probably using Safari... I noticed that Safari (on Windows XP) is slower than Firefox and IE7 (yes!) in reacting to user actions as selecting, deselecting, changing focus, etc... which may lead to a feeling that something doesn't work... especially if you are a bit too fast with your actions. This is only my experience...

Anyway... thank you again... we need this sort of feedback, of course.

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